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Sunday, December 30, 2012

Crumbling Baby Teeth

Reversing tooth decay. Those three words sound way too good to be true. So it must be impossible, right? Not so fast. As any mom, I want my kids to have healthy teeth. Lately I have been running into mom after mom after mom who have witnessed with their own children (and themselves) that reversing tooth decay is possible.

It's something nobody talks about and your dentist will tell you it's not possible. 

I am on a quest to find out! Baby E's teeth have gotten so bad. Surgery is not a way out, it doesn't get to the root of the problem (pun intended). But that's the first thing any dentist will recommend. As you know, I'm not one for band-aid solutions.

I haven't shared this on the blog, but since 95% of moms I meet have been telling me that their kids have problems with teeth - I feel I must shed light on this subject. Not to mention all of us have tooth problems to some degree. So here it is, Baby E's teeth up close and personal...



I read Ramiel Nagel's book, Cure Tooth Decay, selectively this year. To be honest, switching our diet so drastically spooked me away at first! It was too much to handle at the time, with a new baby and all. But it looks like now we are ready and we need it. Crazy dental bills will cost us way more than the extra expense of good quality food, meat, and milk from local farmers!

This isn't going to be easy, for sure. No grains and no sugar (short version)? We've been practically eating an entire loaf of my homemade bread every one to two days the entire year! We've been relying on white flour as a cheap filler. Yes, I make everything from scratch. But still, white flour and sugar have wreaked havoc on our health lately and we know it.

So I am taking all of you on this journey with us! Do you want to see if it is possible to reverse tooth decay? To fill a cavity without going to the dentist? What other health improvements will we see with a nutrient rich diet? I am eager to find out!

I need all of you to help us stick with it. I will need encouragement to keep this going. I will need your fabulous ideas for recipes! I will share ours as well.

If any of you want to attempt a tooth healing, traditional foods way of life this year with us, you'll need Cure Tooth Decay. You can do without it, but it would be kind of hard since I cannot possibly give you all the detailed information that Ramiel has outlined in this book.

Next week hopefully we will make our way to a local farm and delve into eating grass fed meat and real milk. I'm so ready for some real food. I miss it from the days of my childhood summers in my grandparents' village!

Have you ever heard of the Traditional Foods "diet"? Perhaps you're a veteran? If not, are you interested in learning with me if reversing tooth decay is possible?




43 comments:

  1. I am interested to hear about your transformation! My focus on the past two years and even more so this year has been on eating real food (real meat, real fats, real dairy, etc.). I have slowly been substituting white sugar for more natural sugars like honey and white flour for stone ground whole wheat flour, grass-fed beef, local non-homogenized milk, grass-fed raw cheeses, etc.

    Yes, it's more expensive on some accounts, but you will get skilled at finding deals. I buy what is on sale at Whole Foods. I buy flours and grains from the bulk sections. You would be surprised how cheap you could get organic stone ground whole wheat flour from the bulk bin.

    I always try to think about it in terms of paying now instead of paying later. You are investing in your family's health and this will pay dividends.

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    1. Thanks for your comment! Until now we were buying bulk flour in 50 lb bags, just $16 a bag! Now that's cheap! We were going through an entire bag in just 2-3 months. We eat a lot of bread, I would mix whole wheat and plain unbleached flour.

      But with Ramiel's protocol for healing tooth decay there are NO GRAINS, the only thing I will possibly attempt to make is bread or some baked goods out of coconut flour and 100% rye sprouted flour. Maybe one loaf of bread per week and waffles on weekends.

      If we were just following Weston A. Price recommendations, we would have used sprouted flours for baked goods. But that will not help much with tooth decay, you really have to go grain free.

      I love your comments, so keep them coming! I'll be posting about our progress every once in a while :)

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    2. I've begun a more primal way of eating. Www.17recipes.com is a favorite of mine! She transforms foods we love into paleo recipes. See what you think!

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    3. Thanks for the recommendation, looks like a great blog!

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  2. We're about to embark on a modified Paleo diet this week. Tooth decay is only one of the benefits I'm looking for. We had issues with my youngest top 4 teeth soon after he turned a year old. Ended up getting root canals and crowns on all 4 teeth at 18 mo old. Saw more cavities popping up this summer and bought some fermented cod liver oil/butter oil blend. In less than a month it healed his cavity! I will be blogging our journey starting this week at Kleinhauschaos.blogspot.com

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    1. Thank you for sharing Holli, I'll be following along on your blog! :)

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  3. We are grain free Nastya....we follow the Gaps diet if you want to look into it... So far, it has helped me and my kids a lot when it comes to alergies, eczema, etc... I noticed when I eat any grain or sugar, my teeth hurt...this diet has given my teeth a break...my teeth used to be in very bad shape, gum bleeding every day for no reason...my gums are not bleeding anymore! I make my own toothpaste also, look into wellnessmama.com Good luck to you! It is an awesome diet there are sooooo many tips and recipes and it is sooo simple...I coppy skills from wellfedhomestead, elanaspantry (sometimes), keeperofthehome, affairsofliving to name a few....awesome and simple recipes...be prepared for lots of eggs (:

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    1. Good to know Julz, I didn't know you were grain free, I think your sister might have mentioned it! I'm going to have to go subscribe to all those blogs you mentioned. Since we haven't made it out to the farm yet we've been eating a ton of plain organic eggs! I am craving to try real milk, pastured eggs, and grass fed meat so bad!

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  4. these are some of my favorite simple soups..we eat soups now every lunch from broth.... http://www.thenourishinggourmet.com/2011/10/12-tips-and-recipes-for-stage-1-of-the-gaps-intro-diet.html
    I really wish you well Nastya...its a journey...start off little by taking stuff out of your house like sugar, then something else, then something else.... unless you just want to jump into it..but know, if you jump into it, your body will go through a withdraw and you will find days when you simply feel like dying unless you have a little sugar or bread lol...its a challenge so eat up with you have and plan out recipes (: its fun

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    1. Hahaha, I'm already having those days when I WANT SUGAR! It will take me a while! We're used to having homemade cookies and pies pretty much every day, so I know it will not be easy. It's been gradual because of the holidays, just before we started we had 4 days straight of family parties with junky food. Since Wednesday we also had company over 3 times and there were sweets. But I am no longer making any bread and my bread-maker is taking a breather (I might use it to make meatloaf from grass-fed ground beef). I can't wait to get my coconut flour I ordered online so I can make some not sweet baked goods for our transition. It's hardest for the kids, but Baby E understand we're in this to save her teeth!

      Thanks for the link!

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  5. About a year ago my dental x-rays showed I had two almost cavities on my front teeth. the dentist gave me some prescription toothpaste to use once daily. This year when I had my x-ray the places were gone. So tooth decay can be reversed. I don't know if this toothpaste is available for little kids though.

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    1. That's great! Thanks for sharing Rachel. I guess the toothpaste may have helped. We're talking about reversing tooth decay through diet though. The amazing thing is that when Weston A. Price traveled the world and met indigenous people - many of them had 0% rate of tooth decay and they haven't seen a toothbrush in their life :) It was their diet of 'as found in nature' animals, plants, and seafood that yielded these results. They knew no flour or sugar. I find that very fascinating!

      My 4 year old isn't that great at not swallowing toothpaste, so a prescription one wouldn't be very good since I am sure it has stuff in it that isn't meant to be swallowed (like fluoride).

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  6. I love to bake, and that is my weakness, during the holidays i've been baking cookies more than i usually do. We are not white flour eaters at all, i don't bake bread often almost never, but we do eat sprouted whole grain organic bread often. Our grocery bill is going over the budget for sure and yet im looking for more healthier way of eating, i would say i get more excited to go shop for clean food than go shopping for anything else. I've been researching so much. Not sure how fast i'll get there but until i educate myself well enough im looking forward to a change.
    Im reading Gut and Psychology Syndrome book which i recommend to all. With the help of my local library they ordered this book to add to their addition and im first one to have it in my hands to read and will keep renewing it until im done reading it.
    It's such an eye opening.
    My husband need better diet, and all of us will fall along with him to support him. It would be quite change, and everyone around me think im a bit crazy but im going for it! Perhaps i don't know how challenging it would be and i know we will fail many times but i want to get to the point what works for us.

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    1. Baked goods are our family's weakness for sure :) "Teplie bulochki", those two words melt my heart, hehe. But I'm glad to see that eating healthier is on so many people's minds, when we are surrounded by so much junk and food-like products. It's definitely expensive, we're always looking for ways to save on better quality food, so I'm hoping to develop some long term relationships with local farmers!

      We're in this for Baby E, but really we all need it. I know how awful my skin looks when I overdose on four and sugar. Hubby has other problems that need a diet adjustment, and Baby T needs a good start on his new teeth coming in. We all need it!

      Thank you so much for your comment Luda, I always enjoy reading your comments!

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  7. Lol be careful Nastya, don't get too caught up with the coconut flour...the point of this diet is to go more towards veggies and meats and fish and dairy vs sweets (even honey). Coconut flour still has phytic acid, but is tons better. This morning we had breakfast made of 2 eggs (omega 3 enriched) and hash made out of celery root ( graded) and half onion and butter.... very simple honestly yet very healthy (: here is the hashbrowns http://www.healthhomehappy.com/2011/04/celery-root-hashbrowns.html

    I am not going to lie, some days I cheat, never home, but when I am at church and they have a buffett there like yesterday, i ate corn chips....no ok on this diet...but i did! lol and felt honestly horrible, i felt like i was going to through up and my head hurt! so my body is deffinately addapted to this diet. Raw grassfed milk is amazing.... and grassfed meat is very clean and cooks very fast...on this diet you will feel so light but not hungry!! But you will have major cravings after eating veggies and meat for bread and sweets thinking your not full when you really are...Over time that changes (: Sveta is on the diet...lol i feel like i got the whole world involved...it really helped me so i pass on the word (: and oh cheeseeee lol.....hmmmmm trador joes have a grassfed butter and chese...costco has the same chese and butter (grassfed) for tons cheaper made by Kerrygold. Trador Joes 8 oz of that butter cost over 3.50 ...at costco i got 24 oz for 6 buks...so you really gotta shop everywhere!!!! I have 5 stores I go to that i buy different stuff from lol, root veggies from one store, coconut flour from another, eggs from another lol etc.... I called every stores and compared prices (: it will take time but you will get there girl honestly its just a learning process... Blessings to your guys, its a new year so let that be your little change (:

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    1. :) Hehe, I expect I'll get many more comments from you, especially on my next diet post! Don't worry, I know that the idea is to eat more nutrient dense food, I am not attempting to continue with all my baking just with a substitute. I might bake once a week instead of the 5 times a week I did before! Then maybe even less once we have access to farm fresh goodies!

      This morning we had an omelette, 5 eggs with sauteed onions in butter, mushrooms, and 'salo' :) I am compiling recipes of different ways to make eggs for breakfast, I think I'm going to have like 25 options!

      The unfortunate thing is that we visit family almost every weekend, either on his side or mine (nice to have them all here). But they don't really get it, though they are interested as to why we are doing this. But my father in law is pretty clueless, as in while eating store bought cheesecake with a list of 20 ingredients he said in reference to Baby E "It's not that bad, it's not like she is eating sugar", I had to hold myself back from bursting with laughter!

      So when we are visiting others, I'll have to bring my own most of the time. Don't you just love how people will ask IN FRONT OF YOUR CHILD "Oh, she can't have this candy?" Drives me up the wall!

      Anyhow, I'll stop ranting. But having relatives here will make this so much harder.

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  8. I keep logging in and out remembering tip and things for you.... if you guys eat cereal, which is by the way AMAZING with raw milk lol...raw milk is soo creamy girl yummm nothing like the store milk, yuk...anyway,, here is a cereal recipe from spelt flour (video) http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/video-healthy-cold-cereal-1/ and here is the grain free recipe http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/homemade-cold-breakfast-cereal-grain-free/ ..( i am not a fan of almond flour, too fattning honestly and toooooo much of phytic acid, way to much for us, but its a personal choice) ... they turn out to be like syhariki (: really cool, Josiah LOVES it with bananas in the AM....so hope you like it

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    1. We are not fans of cereal, but I may try this down the road. This is something that would be on the 'avoid' list for our diet. I can't use any unsprouted grains, and even the sprouted one sparingly. No nuts either, so no almond flour as it is bad for teeth. I've been following her blog for nearly two years by the way :)

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  9. Yea we don't eat cereal much here either but I did like that she soaked her flours in yogurt for 24 hours to kill pretty much everything...so I wanted to share that.... Also, in regards to baking, you only need half a cup of coconut flour to bake a dozen of muffins (: because with coconut flour, majority is, really, eggs! So for every cup you do 8 eggs plus milk....it works out (: I bought shredded coconut. I actually make milk out of that and the pulp I dry in my oven and blend the dry shreds in my blender and it turns into flour so it works for me! Good luck on the diet (: wellnessmama.com started a healthy challenge that has many recipes you would like, I think. Hope all is well.

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    1. I subscribed to Wellnessmama a few days ago :) Great blog! I just got my coconut flour in the mail today, can't wait to bake something because we haven't eaten anything baked for almost two weeks and it is killing us. Tough after eating cookies every day the while year! :)

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  11. In addition to the teeth healing protocol outlined by Weston A Price, we have started adding Concentrace drops (minerals) to the milk or water that our 2 yr old drinks, and also almost daily Epsom salt baths (magnesium). So far so good!

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    1. Thank you so much for the recommendation Miranda! I'll have to look into that. :)

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  12. Given all the sugar in processed foods, I am not surprised that this is a problem. Our family just went veggie, and our dentist says he sees the best teeth on kids who are veggie!

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    1. You're right, processed foods are loaded with sugar. I was surprised though because we do not eat processed foods (for the most part) since my daughter was born. I make everything from scratch. So I was surprised to learn that sugar and flour as we know it is the culprit, even if you use it to make your own baked goods at home. We're already seeing many health improvements going grain and sugar free for our whole family :) And it's been just 2 weeks!

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  13. Thank you so much for the information. I am going to speak to my granddaughter's dentist right away about this issue.

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    1. Unfortunately they do not teach this in dental school (shame because Weston A. Price was actually one of the dentists who founded the American Dental Association). The dentist may look at you cross-eyed, unless you have a holistic dentist who may know about this. :)

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  14. I just read your post and skimmed the comments. You don't seem to talk about IF and HOW OFTEN you brush your daughter's teeth! I've found parents dont' KNOW that THEY have to brush their children's teeth until at LEAST age 6. Twice a day. And one needs to be right before bed.
    Your child has decay that I have trouble believing she could have if your brushed her teeth.
    The bread itself won't cause decay (that she had been eating) but it would stay on the teeth it would
    Also, is your water Fluridated?
    I know, fluride is a carcinogen. I'd rather have fluride toothpaste and rince than drink it every time I use water. I think topical fluride is much safer. It hardens the teeth. It's not safe though for little kids to use fluride toothpaste because they swallow it. Sometimes parents use it on their kids...tiny peas sized amt.
    I have been a home visitor for low income inner city kids age birth to 3 and I"ve not seen teeth like your childs. There definetly is or was something wrong with what you were doing. It's good to think about diet but those inner city kids weren't eating all that well I'm sure and their teeth all are pearly white and beautiful with no decay (my city does have fluridated water thought, on second thought)
    I hope you are brushing her teeth twice a day

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    1. Dear Anonymous,
      Thanks for your comment! Wow, I'm sorry but I don't know of a single mom who doesn't know she should be brushing her child's teeth! I guess I don't hang around those circles, around here we believe in common sense. :) Yes, of course we brush our teeth. Why would I be posting about my daughter's tooth decay on the internet for everyone to see if I didn't have so much as common sense to brush her teeth???

      If you have time, please familiarize yourself with the work of Dr. Weston A. Price who discovered people living far off who had no access to modern foods such as processed grains and sugars, they had NO TOOTHBRUSHES, and had ZERO tooth decay. No fluoridated toothpaste or water, no floss, no mouth rinse, ZERO tooth decay. Not even cavities. There is much more to this than a dentist will tell you. The moment the modern diet became accessible to these indigenous people, their tooth decay rates soared. It was what they ate that affected what their teeth looked like on the outside. Our entire body is designed to be nourished from within, not masked on the outside just to look good while we eat empty calories without nutritious merit.

      I know plenty of children with similar looking teeth as my child. Her condition is actually commonly known as fluorosis, which is fluoride poisoning. It is VERY common: http://www.fluoridealert.org/issues/fluorosis/

      No thank you, I don't want a tiny pea size amount of carcinogen for topical treatment for my child. I would rather find the root cause of the problem instead of looking for band-aid solutions. I appreciate your concern!

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  15. I've just read through a lot of the comments and got some really useful ideas. I've been so worried about my 1 year old's teeth. This brought up some things I had never thought about.

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    1. Thank you for stopping by and reading! Hope it helps :)

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  16. Thanks for sharing. The two biggest factors is to create early dental habits and make visits to the dentist fun. It creates adult patients who have no issues with dental care

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  17. Hi, please share the name of the cod liver oil you are giving your children. I would like to buy some for my family too. Thanks, a new reader of your blog, Juliette.
    adventuresoftravel@yahoo.com

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    1. Thank you for your comment Juliette! Although ideally we would be taking Green Pastures Cod Liver Oil (found here: http://amzn.to/YBXjT8) because it isn't heat processed but rather fermented as it has been done in centuries past, it is out of our price range.
      Right now we are taking krill oil and we have an open giveaway for it as well. But in the long term we may opt for the less expensive option of Double Strength Cod Liver Oil Capsules from Swanson Vitamins. I'm also contemplating the krill oil they offer. I will do a post sometime soon about our current cod liver oil experiences. Thank you for stopping by!

      Here is the WAPF list of recommended CLO: http://www.westonaprice.org/cod-liver-oil/cod-liver-oil-basics

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  18. This is the second time I have heard about healing tooth decay naturally. The first one was about eating eggshells and I think taking the codliver oil also. My daughter just lost her first baby tooth and her new one is coming in rather yellow. It is very interesting that our childrens teeth our being affected. I totally agree it is in the food and am very interested in looking into this diet.

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    1. Thank you for your comment Jaime! I've been reading A LOT of stories of moms healing their kids' teeth with this diet lately, more than I can count. I am keeping track of all the testimonials I've come across and I really want to compose a post linking to all these stories, they are helpful to read. So when I get around to it, maybe you'll see it :)

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  19. Did a dentist diagnose fluorosis? I suggest you get those teeth removed asap before she gets an abscess. Teeth like that are a health hazard as bacteria can get in through weak teeth like that and cause infection and cardiovascular disease. My son has enamel hypoplasia and no diet is going to improve that, or your daughter's teeth when they are that far gone. They are possibly also sore and sensitive. You are being cruel and selfish letting her walk around like that! Natural remedies are all very well, but seriously get in touch with reality and get her to a dentist.

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    1. Thank you for your concern about my child Adelaide. I hear the word "selfish" thrown around a lot at parents who want what is best for their kids when it doesn't align with mainstream beliefs. I had every reason to try natural methods before resorting to a dentist, children die at the dentist more often than we know FYI: http://dentistthemenace.com/deathbythedentist.htm

      So I guess it is selfish of me instead of taking the easy way out to spend 80 hours researching the subject, buying minerals, cod liver oil, remineralizing toothpastes, grass fed butter, making my own bone broth, and spending every day administering all this to my child. Clearly I must be selfish, right?

      FOR YOUR INFORMATION, we've been on this diet all winter and spring and it has done amazing things for her teeth! They mostly remineralized, turned hard, and the enamel is coming back. A lot of the brown spots are gone. All of this a dentist would say IS NOT POSSIBLE. How much can I trust a dentist now that I know what they say is not possible in fact is?

      I am very much in touch with reality and though I understand your concern, this is not your child and you don't know half the story. If she complained of any tooth pain or if it in any way made her uncomfortable I would take her to a trusted pediatric dentist right away - even if my insurance doesn't cover it and I would have to pay out of pocket. She hasn't ever, not even once mentioned any tooth sensitivities or pain - and she is the kind that will complain about the tiniest scrape on her knee.

      If you are interested in further reading on the subject, here are some suggestions.

      http://wellnessmama.com/3650/how-to-remineralize-teeth-naturally/

      http://www.thenourishinggourmet.com/2013/01/a-success-story-remineralizing-teeth-after-bottle-rot.html

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  20. I am so grateful that you wrote about this. My son's teeth have begun to decay and it happened so fast! We used to eat sardines for breakfast or lunch almost everyday. I wonder now if when we stopped was when his teeth started getting bad.
    I look forward to reading your recipes and updates. Thank you so much!

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    1. Thank you for your comment Toni! Sardines are really good for teeth, they are loaded with minerals. Getting an update up is in the works, but it's hard - not easy to get a good photo :) I'm working on it, it'll take a while to write.

      Meanwhile, there is a private Facebook group with over 5,000 members for moms healing their kids' teeth naturally. Lots of practical advice and success stories. Send me an email and I'll message the group owner :) anastasia at eco-babyz dot com

      You have a great chance of success considering it's in the early stages! :)

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    2. Hello, I wanted to see how everything worked out for you. I am trying to heal tooth decay.

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  21. How did the healed teeth turn out for your lo?

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    1. Hi Christie! Sorry I wasn't seeing or replying to the latest comments, the blog has been on the back burner as I run a business full time. My daughter's baby teeth got worse before they got better. In the long run it does work IF you stick with the routine. But realistically, I don't think it's doable because that would also mean eliminating birthday parties, grandparents who mean well but give way too much sweets and grains, and real life in general. In a perfect world, yes, absolutely I believe the Cure Tooth Decay protocol actually does work, I've seen it. You can only commit to it for so long though, just our experience :)

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